From: Tefo Mohapi  
Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:20 AM
To: Bellows,
Cc: Nontle Anele Kabanyane;; Gary S. Gevisser; MonteCristo@KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM;
Ron Derby;;;;; Glen Shapiro
Subject: Re: "What happens when you give rights to blacks?"


Mr. Bellows,


I need to clear some further assumptions I have made about you and to even think I gave you the benefit of the doubt!




* Are you really a senior person at American International Group and the company's spokesperson by any chance?

* Are you really a risk management specialist?

* Are you really a father with a family?


To repeat what I have said in my response to your daughters e-mail....


" I cannot judge what you or anyone else says, I just experience those around me hence I (hope) don't have enemies because I neither trust nor mistrust, I just experience and that experience will dictate what comes next..."


I can now understand (but not necessarily support) Mr Gevisser's remarks about you.


Now here is my opinion for whatever it is worth:


"in my opinion what matters - is your individual accomplishment ( in both personal and business affairs ) and the respect you offer to others
( as long as that respect is warranted ) -once disrespect is the matter of course - the above no longer prevails - and all the rest is secondary - "


That is such a typical Western (Click on this link and search for START and then start reading to understand what I am saying) opinion. Always concerned about the end GOAL, the ACCOMPLISHMENT (mostly material) no matter what you destroy in the process of attaining that goal. All that matters is a person's motives, if your motives are rotten and evil ,you can accomplish the whole world for all I care, it doesn't matter even if you say wonderful words or perform gracious actions.....the mere fact that your motives are rotten (Definition of rotten: wishing or causing evil against any human and/or the planet or universal environment as a whole). Don't get me wrong, I am NO SAINT, but get worried when all that matters to someone is THE ACCOMPLISHMENT and they base this as their judgement of others.


"for shared educational reading"


If that piece of "junk" statistics is considered educational reading then I am glad that I am currently not part of any educational system in order to protect my mind and potentially my DNA from being further polluted.


"I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers."


I have a challenge for you. Setup countrywide conferences only targeted at Afrikaners and all other people in South Africa of European discent and preach the above statement to them. In fact, do this across Africa and also pick up the phone and call Nick Oppenheimer and tell him the same and see what response you get. That to put it politely is utter nonsense. The mere fact that you judge people based on a physical attribute which they have no choice of deciding is pathetic. So to borrow from one of your other opinions, If in a with a town with 70% of BIG NOSED people, the jails are full of 70% of BIG NOSED people it is a matter of probability?? That is laughable...ever heard of the word DISCRIMINATION? Ever realised Mr Bellows that all humanity is THE SAME? Did you know that all continents were once upon a time oONE CONTINENT? Therefore making all of us related in one way or another.........I bet this makes you curse and shiver! C'mon, wake up, switch on the lights and let some of that light enter your so you have a some probability of being enlightened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Actually I'm going to stop right here responding to the rest of your e-mails or opinions you sent and just tell you something nicely.


Mr. Bellows, whether you like it or not humanity is the same. When you hurt another you are only hurting yourself. BALANCE is achieved everyday and you cannot go against it. For every negative force you exert there is an equal positive force coming back to you, this is how it works, everything needs to be balanced! The same goes for exploiting people (it catches up with you!!! Re: Why haven't the world's financial markets imploded yet???), the same goes for stupidity as well!


I am still perplexed at how you got to be a Senior person at AIG, the world's people must surely be sleeping or hypnotised for people like you to be running this world with your MEGALOPOLOIES (Re: AIG). My anger has turned into pity (for you) at how you could be so in the how you have been drugged and hypnotised by your money not to even realise that me and you are the same damn thing, after the same damn things....................


I'm tempted to give up on you, but then again that is not how things get BALANCED out. I pray to G-D Almighty that your cycle of enlightenment comes sooner whilst you are on this earth so that you can pass it on to your beloved children.


Kgotso! (Peace be with you and your family on thanksgiving!)



----- Original Message -----

From: Bellows, Ron

Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:15 PM

Subject: RE: "What happens when you give rights to blacks?"


Dear Mr. Mohapi


The below article you reference - was a simple op-ed piece distributed for shared educational reading -

and for the benefit of offering a two sided debate in response to the verbose rantings - of another's hyperbolic

and meandering subject maturation's -


and nothing more .......


the attached word doc sums up most of my beliefs - if you're so inclined


and - ( just in case your interested )


my grandparents were immigrants from eastern Europe - and I began this life in a non-English speaking house in queens - new York


in my opinion what matters - is your individual accomplishment ( in both personal and business affairs ) and the respect you offer to others

( as long as that respect is warranted ) -once disrespect is the matter of course - the above no longer prevails - and all the rest is secondary -


enjoy -


happy turkey day


Ron Bellows 

 -----Original Message-----
Tefo Mohapi []
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:29 AM
Ron Bellows
Cc: Nontle Anele Kabanyane;; Gary S. Gevisser; MonteCristo@KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM;
Ron Derby;;;;;;; Glen Shapiro
Subject: "What happens when you give rights to blacks?"

Mr Ron Bellows Snr.,


Before i comment on your e-mail below, I just need to give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you.....


"Did you really  write this e-mail below and distribute it?"


I will await your response before I give you my R 0.02cents worth....


....and to think you even titled it "What happens when you give rights to blacks?".


Kgotso! (Peace)




Sent: Tue 5/18/2004 1:22 PM

Subject: What happens when you give rights to blacks?

...this is what happens.


South Africa's first "democratic election" was held on 27th April 1994.

Here are the things you will never see in the major news media regarding post-Apartheid South Africa...

* In 10 years, 1+ million South Africans, mostly blacks, lost their jobs due to the ANC's creeping socialism

* Unemployment is at a staggering 45%+ - much worse than under white rule & worse than the 30% unemployment in the USA during the Great Depression

* 1 million whites stand to lose their jobs in the coming years to Affirmative Action

* 1,450+ White commercial farmers were murdered & our food production is being threatened by "Land Reform"

* They say by 2014, 30% of commercial farmland will be owned by blacks though I think it will happen much sooner & on a much bigger scale

* 115,000 land claims by blacks have been processed so far - and millions of hectares of land have been handed over to them

* There are farms in South Africa, which were prosperous when run by whites, which were handed over to blacks. These farms then collapsed after 2+ years of black management and are now derelict

* We are the rape capital of the world... it is conservatively estimated that we have 50,000 rapes per annum

* 21,500 children were raped in 2000

* 40% of rape survivors are under 18...

* 1,231 children under 5 were raped in 13 months by blacks believing in AIDS myths. Many babies who are raped die...

* We are now an international drug-smuggling route, comparable to Colombia...

* We export cannabis grown by blacks...

* We are the largest users of mandrax in the world...

* 150-200 Police are shot dead annually by violent criminals...

* Our Police have the highest suicide rate in the world...

* Our society is 7 times more violent (per capita) than the USA...

* In violent crimes, we match Russia & Colombia...

* Crime is so high the Govt put a moratorium on the release of crime statistics for a year & fudged them ever since...

* The Democratic Alliance (conservatively) estimates there are 300,000 robberies per annum

* Our prisons are often filled to capacity (170,000+) & then thousands are let go, sometimes without being charged...

* In January 2004, it was reported that some of our prisons are 300% over capacity...

* In March 2004, it was reported that the prison population was 180,000...

* Mandela's "Birthday Present" to the country (yes they used those words), was to release 9,000 criminals...

* Murderers have been "forgiven" by our Presidents, only to murder again...

* On 3rd March 2004, on SABC TV3 News it was announced that to "Celebrate Ten Years of Democracy" they might let thousands of prisoners go free...

* More prisons have been built after Apartheid but even that is not enough to cope with the crime wave...

* More blacks are in our prisons after Apartheid than before. (They no longer fear the Police)...

* The ANC LOVES criminals. They gave them the vote! It was announced that over 100,000 prisoners would be registered & allowed to vote

* Some criminals were afraid of being registered to vote. They feared if their finger-prints were taken they'd be implicated in other yet undiscovered crimes! (My question is how they can be in prison in the first place without being fingerprinted?? Strange things happen in this country!)

* We had 10 years of peace, with no international sanctions and yet, the much-awaited boom never came

* Our socialist economy dribbles along. GDP growth is estimated at 1.3% per annum which compares weakly with (sometimes) double digit growth rates under white rule.

* The Democratic Alliance estimates that 6% GDP growth is possible even now if the economy was run better.

* In the Johannesburg (Gauteng) area, 80% of self-help schemes for blacks have failed since 1994

* Let there be no illusions where the ANC wants to take us. They support & give money to: Zimbabwe, Haiti & DRC (Zaire) who are ruled by Socialist Dictators who suppress even the blacks!

* In the April 2004 election the ANC finally attained its goal of getting 66% vote

* This means they can change the constitution at will and no other political party can stop them

* This is what Robert Mugabe was able to do before he took 95% of the land from 4,500 white farmers

* The ANC got 70% of the votes (although the IFP complained that there were 42 election irregularities in KwaZulu/Natal alone)

* Now that we are officially, and legally the latest One Party State in Africa, we will walk the path of others like Zimbabwe where eventually nobody, not even the blacks, have any freedom any more...

* South Africa's economy, employment & crime rates were better when the world hated us and we had civil strife

* In the end, the only winners were the handful of the new Wealthy Black Super Elite...

Tefo Mohapi
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