From: fortune500@adelphia.net

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:09 AM

To: Tefo Mohapi; Denise Bellows; MonteCristo@KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM;

gsg@sellnext.com

Cc: Ron Bellows; Glen Shapiro; president@whitehouse.gov;

duffy56@optonline.net; fortune500@adelphia.net; deemari82@yahoo.com;

veritas911@msn.com; curlycurt76@yahoo.com; Ron Derby

Subject: Re: Re: What happens Gary S. Gevisser talks shit about my

family?

 

A young girl defending her father is understandable, I would hope that my children would do the same.

 

As for the mudslinging - let's address the party that started the diatribe.

 

 

>

> From: "Tefo Mohapi" <tefo@breinsystems.co.za>

> Date: 2004/11/23 Tue AM 10:02:18 EST

> To: "Denise Bellows" <deemari82@yahoo.com>,

>     <MonteCristo@KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM>,  <gsg@sellnext.com>

> CC: "Ron Bellows" <Ron.Bellows@AIG.com>,

>     "Glen Shapiro" <gshapiro@eeiconferences.com>,

>     <president@whitehouse.gov>,  <duffy56@optonline.net>,

>     <fortune500@adelphia.net>,  <deemari82@yahoo.com>,

>     <veritas911@msn.com>,  <curlycurt76@yahoo.com>,

>     "Ron Derby" <ron@moneyweb.co.za>

> Subject: Re: What happens Gary S. Gevisser talks shit about my family?

>

> Denise,

>

> Quote "I cannot say that what he says is true or not. I cannot judge

> what he or you say, all I can do is just read and experience these

> messages ..." - Tefo Mohapi in the previous e-mail

>

> I am not standing up for Mr Gevisser, neither am I condemning anyone

> else all I did was respond to the immature way that your brother

> replied. if, as you say, Mr Gevisser provoked you don't you think then

> you should like an adult be calm....after all TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A

> RIGHT.....agree?

>

> So having said that, are you then going to engage in a fight with

> everybody who calls you names? Don't you think there's a better way of

> handling that especially if it's not your purpose in life to be

> fighting others (unless it is your purpose to fight everyone who calls

> you names)?

>

> C'mon Denise, just think for a moment.......don't just react!

>

> "An eye for eye a tooth for a tooth will leave all of us blind and

> unable to chew" :) (smile.........laugh)

>

> Kgotso! (Peace!)

> tefo

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Denise Bellows

>   To: Tefo Mohapi ; MonteCristo@KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM ; gsg@sellnext.com

>   Cc: Ron Bellows ; Glen Shapiro ; president@whitehouse.gov ; duffy56@optonline.net ; fortune500@adelphia.net ; deemari82@yahoo.com ; veritas911@msn.com ; curlycurt76@yahoo.com ; Ron Derby

>   Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:35 PM

>   Subject: Re: What happens Gary S. Gevisser talks shit about my

> family?

>

>

>   Tefo,

>

>   If you think that name-calling is "immature" then I would think that

> you would think this is equally immature (reminds me of high school):

>

>   "Again instead of coming up with bullshit excuses giving us all the

> gory details as u took out your frustrations on your nephew, chopping

> off his legs below the knees, squirting gin every so often to

> substitute for using the bandages to wipe the tears of laughter from

> your eyes be4 u moved on to ripping the heart out of your father's

> chest cavity for him being such a prick all his life,,, i.e. enough of

> this passive aggressiveness, read diligently as if u were applying for

> a job of a lifetime what I have been writing that has the youth who r

> all our futures staying up late tired of the bullshit from the older

> generation responsible for this incredibly mess, it still the greatest

> time in the history of our species to be alive, agree?"

>

>   What do you think? Can you guess who wrote it?

>   Thats right, Mr. Gevisser.  And let me re-iterate this one part that I find so deeply troubling: "ripping the heart out of your father's chest cavity for him being such a prick all his life,,, "

>    How could one person be so cruel? To imply that my grandfather's illness is the fault of my father!! And he sent these aweful words to my brother and I!!! Are we not expected to be upset by this? Should we just take it, so as not to be spoiled brats? Well I was taught speak when spoken to, and Mr. Gevisser spoke first to my brother and I, so we have responded accordingly. 

>   And how could you stick up for him after he said such horrible things with no remorse?!

>   So before you yell at my brother for being immature, I think it is

> important to look at who started this teenage name-calling game.  It was in fact Mr. Gevisser who started and repeated these low blows to my family.  How will you respond when Mr. Gevisser decides to turn his insults on you?

>

>   ~ Denise Bellows

>

>   PS- I am interested in hearing your response to this message.

>

>

>   Tefo Mohapi <tefo@breinsystems.co.za> wrote:

>     Firstly Mr Bellows jnr, I assume you are an adult.

>

>     This is my first communication with you and you have done everything to

>     prove Mr Gevisser right in whatever he says about your family by the reply

>     you sent. Very Immature to say the least!

>

>     What happened to reasoning? If Mr Gevisser's missives are a whole bunch of

>     lies why not just ignore them and just press "delete"?

>

>     I cannot say that what he says is true or not. I cannot judge what he or you

>     say, all I can do is just read and experience these messages but when you

>     send a reply like you just did you have removed almost all doubt from my

>     mind that what he says is true. I suggest you have a father son chat with

>     your dad and let him school you on how to behave like an adult. Not throwing

>     your toys around like a spoilt brat?!? ..... but then again maybe you are a

>     spoilt brat!

>

>     Kgotso! (Peace)

>     tefo

>     ----- Original Message -----

>     From: "Ron Bellows"

>     To: "'Tefo Mohapi'" ;

>     Cc: "Ron Bellows" ; "Glen Shapiro"

>     ; ;

>     ; ; ;

>     ;

>     Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:16 AM

>     Subject: Re: What happens Gary S. Gevisser talks shit about my

> family?

>

>

>     >

>     > Gary,

>     >

>     > First of all, I'm curious to know who you pay to write these splendid

>     pieces of shit in which you make a pathetic attempt at smearing my name

>     amongst your small circle followers? It must have taken an awfully long time

>     to find someone to type it out for you in "eloquent" terms to make you sound

>     smart, as it's quite unlike you to include even one line of actual content

>     in any of your meandering nonsensical drool. By the way, if you're

>     interested in poking at my use of "conspiracy theories" as you put it,

>     perhaps you should look at your own previous E-mails in regards to this

>     matter, agree?

>     >

>     > One would think that a man of such importance as yourself surely wouldn't

>     have the time sit at a computer for 12 hours a day emailing thousands of

>     people who really don't give a fuck about any of your babbling nonsense. I

>     have a suggestion for you, take the advice of my father, whom prior to

>     offending you with some incredibly good advice that you seek help - you held

>     in such high reguards, and get some help! Get help from a professional

>     shrink that is, not you dog pee-pee-toe.

>     >

>     > The lack of response from the thousands of recipients you claim to have,

>     or the "Deafening Silences" as you put it, suggests that most people don't

>     friggin care about anything you have to say! The "Deafening Silences" as you

>     put it, doesn't speak volumes, as often the simplist explanation is the most

>     accurate. The "Deafening Silences" rather speak one thing and one thing

>     only, NOBODY CARES!!

>     >

>     > Furthermore, perhaps you forget that my father and I DO have the same

>     name, not to mention he IS my father, in which case I am direct target to

>     your slander against my name, to which it is duely my place to suggest that

>     you STOP TALKING SHIT!

>     >

>     > While we're on the subject of family, quit trashing my sister as well. I

>     don't take kindly to anyone who talks shit about my family and I can't

>     imagine anyone who would respect you for doing such a thing. What are you

>     tying to prove? Do you think you are accomplishing anything by spaming

>     people with your lies and slander against my family? Since this email is

>     being CC'd to "thousands of people around the world" who all give a flying

>     fuck about Gary S. Gevisser and what "the rattlesnake" has to say, then I

>     have a shout-out to make. Gary, lets see how many people we can get to

>     respond to this email.

>     >

>     > ATTN: ALL OF GARY"S LOYAL FOLLOWERS - Please respond to this email if:

>     >

>     > 1.) You support the lies made up by Gary against the Bellows family.

>     >

>     > 2.) You really care about any of the content of Gary's daily life

>     occurrances and/or dealings with "members" of the "outside world" (outside

>     the voices filling the empty space inside his head) which he emails to all

>     whom he has a prayer will listen.

>     >

>     > 3.) You actually believe that gary s. gevisser has the ability to take

>     down the world economy with the snap of a finger.

>     >

>     > 4.) You can actually understand 50% of the nonsense Gary is babbling about

>     in his "missives".

>     >

>     > If any of the thousands you who are amongst Gary's merry band of followers

>     agree with any of the above 4 criteria, please respond with, "I subscribe to

>     the babble of Gary S. Gevisser".

>     >

>     > So Gary S. Gevisser, speaking of which, does that "S" in your name stand

>     for "snake"? Is that where you got your nickname, the Rattlesnake? You

>     should have called yourself the ostrich because it seems like you always

>     have your head in the sand, with your ass high up in the air, so easy to be

>     kicked (or maybe youare praying to G-D=dog that somebody will shove

>     something up it?) Hey, maybe that's where you got your idea for your

>     "bottoms up schooling". No that couldn't be it because it seems like your

>     head has been shoved completely up your ass.

>     >

>     > I guess the name Rattlesnake fits you perfectly: nobody likes a

>     rattlesnake, they live under rocks, and spend their whole lives crawling

>     around on the ground at everyone elses feet and the only way they have any

>     ability to try to make any gain is by attacking someone else. Well, WAY TO

>     GO GARY! You ARE a snake! The only problem for you is (well not the ONLY

>     problem), unlike the rattlesnake you won't shed your skin until the day you

>     die.

>     >

>     > By the way Gary, I notice you CC the President of the United States to all

>     of your emails. Has he responded to ANY of them? Oh don't cry over it, I am

>     sure he is reading them all and storing them away in a secret vault

>     somewhere for future reference. Well, maybe not a vault, maybe just a file.

>     Surely the President must be keeping in close contact with yourself, you

>     being one of the smartest and most powerful men in the universe (or was it

>     the multi-verse as you put it), I forget.

>     >

>     > Well either way, I am sure that when our "great, great President George W.

>     Bush" (as you put it) begins requiring mental screening, you will be the

>     first on his list! Or maybe they will come for you even sooner. I mean,

>     surely you know that our great great President is trying to create a

>     national domestic CIA to spy on Americans for domestic terrorism, one of his

>     definitions of a terrorist includes "people who hate corporations" (see USA

>     Today, Cover Story, Nov. 15 2004). Gee Gary, that sounds a whole like

>     someone who fits YOUR DESCRIPTION! Maybe you should just turn yourself over

>     to the Federal Police NOW - it seems you fit the description of just the

>     type of man the President is "after" (knowing of your hatred for the company

>     my father works for, one of the worlds largest corporations, American

>     International Group). You do "hate" AIG, don't you Gary?

>     >

>     > Anyway Mr. Rattlesnake, despite being the loudmouth, insincere, lying

>     snake that you are, I do NOT wish to be taken off of you email list. I'll

>     have you know that I've been merrily printing out these wonderful missives

>     you've been sending me for the amusement of my entire office staff. From the

>     cries of "Oh my God, what a fucking nutjob!" to "This guy's a dolt!" it is

>     usually accompanied by laughter. Me? I have my doubts as to the sincerety of

>     their laughter. I have a feeling that they're really just members of some

>     secret organization that's trying to monitor America's workplaces for

>     subversive thoughts and opinions. Be careful! I fear I may have accidentally

>     put you in danger by sharing your communications with them! I hope that

>     you're okay!

>     >

>     > Keep your tinfoil hat screwed firmly to your head, good Camelfucker! You

>     never know when they might be monitoring you for subversive thoughts!

>     >

>     > All in good time,

>     >

>     > Ron Bellows Jr.

>     >

>     >

>     > "What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned

>     from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let the

>     people take arms...the tree of liberty must be refressed from time to time,

>     with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

>     > -- Thomas Jefferson to Colonel William S. Smith, 1787

>     >

>     >

>     > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

>     > From: "Gary S. Gevisser"

>     > Reply-To:

>     > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:13:43 -0800

>     >

>     > >Dear Tefor, hello.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >The main reason for my delay in getting back to u is that I was seeking

>     > >input from people around the world not so much in terms of how to reply

>     to

>     > >your straightforward question, "Would you advise me to be [

>     > > Solly Krok's]

>     > >apprentice?" but rather in terms of how they might view my "

>     > >

>     > >credibility" in attracting the likes of u.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >I happen to know versus "believe" that more than a handful of the

>     "favored

>     > >class" Lilly White Wheaty Eating boys around the world would give up

>     their

>     > >genitals to have someone as incredibly entrepreneurial as Solly Krok who

>     has

>     > >to be one of the very worst and best managers I have ever met willing to

>     > >make them an "apprentice", what ever that means, agree?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >In other words, if you're already an

>     > > independent

>     > >thinker then Solly Krok is a G-D-Send. If u were raised to be a

>     co-dependant

>     > >u will find hell, and at the end of the day if u survive then your next

>     of

>     > >kin may get rich writing a bestseller and letting me and/or my heirs sell

>     > >the book.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Significantly less people today are

>     > > surprised that u

>     > >would not only locate me but reach out wanting my opinion than say 72

>     hours

>     > >ago, bearing in mind I have not held down a regular paying job since the

>     > >fall of 1989, all a function of my expanding audience increasingly paying

>     > >very careful attention to my communications, more and more folks

>     mentioned

>     > >on my emails both happy as well as sad, no strike that, petrified to find

>     > >themselves on most if not all search engines especially since it takes

>     > >someone with just an average IQ to have worked out already the "method to

>     my

>     > >madness ", my plan tho, within

>     > >the next 72 hours to reach those of us 85 points and above, so far just 2

>     > >individuals who know me fairly well, relatively speaking, have fully

>     > >imploded but rest assured there will be more once they also work out I am

>     > >literally moments away from answering the all important question I have

>     been

>     > >asking the general public ever since I first went public on The Internet,

>     > >"Why have the financial markets not imploded, yet?"

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >There can be no guarantee that Ron "

>     > > I concur"

>     > > Bellows[1] will shut

>     > >his big mouth even when coming to terms with how he has no one to blame

>     but

>     > >himself, perhaps his parents, a school teacher, a priest in the end it

>     > >wouldn't surprise me if he chooses to blame my dog, Pypeetoe, for his

>     > >incredibly blatant racism that shows his fear, bearing in mind that altho

>     > >Mr. Bellows does not have quite my track record of success u can surely

>     > >appreciate it is easy to make quick clever statements especially when

>     one's

>     > >livelihood and reputation are on the line, it is another thing altogether

>     to

>     > >substantiate an infantile

>     > >reaction to having been caught with your pants down.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Credibility is everything and you can only get it through your past

>     actions

>     > >and it is not something that be manufactured or destroyed that easily. It

>     is

>     > >not only the words that count it is the actions behind the words.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > > Strangely, I have yet

>     to

>     > >see a record of Mr. Bellows "

>     > > wins and lo

>     > > sses", most

>     of

>     > >all what lessons he learned from his failures whereas I put pretty much

>     > >everything I have done in my 47+ years out there on The Internet for

>     anyone

>     > >and everyone to interrogate at will

>     > > [2]; Mr. Bellows does,

>     however,

>     > >have a job that carries the title of Senior Risk Management Specialist +

>     PR

>     > >person of the $280 billion megalopoly of AIG-Marsh & McLennan-ACE Ltd,

>     this

>     > >criminal enterprise now in the cross-hairs of

>     > > Mr. Spitzer,

>     > >Attorney General of New York, suffice to say this past week 2 of his

>     > >colleagues contacted me leaving 2 messages for me to respond "in kind",

>     just

>     > >picking up the messages earlier today, it looking like another cell phone

>     of

>     > >mine has just bit the dust.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Mr. Bellows will at least try and pull himself together after going "back

>     > >and forth" examining in detail the communications between himself, Glenn

>     > >Shapiro, the other individual currently in a heap of tears, and me, my

>     > >thoughts are that since Mr. Shapiro has provided such encouragement to

>     Mr.

>     > >Bellows in order not to "

>     > >bloody his hands" even more Mr. Shapiro provides his "best efforts" to

>     > >contain the situation which might be asking a little much given how the

>     > >possibility exists Mr. Shapiro is in worse shape today than Mr. Bellows,

>     > >again just another example of comrades on the left and the right "locked

>     in

>     > >arms" feeding off those in the center, the audacity of Mr. Bellows to

>     refer

>     > >to George W. Bush as a "

>

>     > >Nazi dictator" while spelling out loud and clear, "this is what happens"

>     in

>     > >answer to either his own or another bigot's question, "

>     >

>     >t

>     > >s%20to%20blacks.htm> What happens when you give rights to blacks?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >So incredibly sick is Mr. Bellows for thinking I of all people would

>     > >commiserate with his poor breeding so incredibly at odds not just with my

>     > >words but my actions, it rather well documented my willingness to take on

>     > >family members very much connected with The

>     > > Diamond Invention,

>     the

>     > >DeBeers Diamond Cartel a fictitious unyielding super monopoly responsible

>     > >for the greatest mass enslavement, torture and yes also mass murder of

>     all

>     > >time, agree?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >The mind a terrible thing to lose, once the space between one's ears

>     becomes

>     > >a perfect vacuum no light can enter, just a matter of time before the

>     light

>     > >bulb goes out, the deafening silences, an open minded person would have

>     > >thought, would surely have been enough for Mr. Bellows as well as Mr.

>     > >Shapiro to be ever so quiet and let G-D-NAture take its natural course,

>     > >agree?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >"It is better to keep quiet and let people think you to be a fool than to

>     > >speak out and remove all doubt."

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Back in the spring of 1999 I became aware of the extent of the rot in the

>     > >corporate world even tho I was well acquainted with how rotten things

>     were

>     > >at the very top from a rather young age, gravity while pulling the rot to

>     > >the lower levels may yet be the saving grace as the world goes topsy,

>     turvy,

>     > >curvy, not all that badly spelled out in this

>     > > risk assessment

>     > >hyperlink which Mr. Bellows back on July 27th blessed with, "Indeed I am

>     > >impressed ".

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >What followed the public announcement of the deep

>     >

>     >7

>     > >8749&mid=1041> rot

>     >

>     >i

>     > >on=m&mid=1161> by Bill Lerach Esq. of the 2,000 pound SCAL gorilla law

>     firm

>     > >of Milberg Weiss-Lerach former clients of mine was a converging of forces

>     > >that had me entering the innermost sanctums of the world of the SCALs

>     > >[Shareholder Class Action Litigation] my posting up, The

>     >

>     >8

>     > >749&action=m&mid=950> Revlon make up job on June 10th 1999 and Where's

>     >

>     >8

>     > >749&action=m&mid=954> the beef? the next day resulting in momworker63's

>     > >"unilever?

>     >

>     >8

>     > >749&action=m&mid=955> " encouraged me that I was on the right track, a

>     > >couple of people in my inner circle catching on real quick to the power I

>     > >was exercising using The Internet, my first website Footsak.com with just

>     3

>     > >hyperlinks spelling out what made a number of people at the highest

>     levels

>     > >of the corporate world shake in their boots, such matters, however, way

>     > >outside of the scope of both Mr. Bellows and Mr. Shapiro's worlds.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >So important to pay attention to the pecking order, such people while

>     > >earning decent money for the 1st world, Mr. Shapiro eventually able to

>     > >branch out on his own, very far down on the totem scale of those like

>     SCAL

>     > >lawyer-liars who don't have any customers to speak of, while Mr. Shapiro

>     and

>     > >Mr. Bellows have to wear suits and ties the likes of Mr. Jeffrey R.

>     Krinsk

>     > >could in fact work like me out of his dungeon altho I would be willing to

>     > >wager if Mr. JRK were to be hooked up to a lie detector test and answer

>     the

>     > >question whether he would prefer living with his wifey in one of the most

>     > >ornate and expensive homes on the west coast of America, a party house of

>     > >party houses or having my 1 bedroom bachelor of bachelor spots with a

>     > >panoramic view of the Pacific "

>     > > Oshon" [sic], a

>     stone

>     > >throw from one of the best surfing spots in the area as well as a

>     whistler

>     > >call from the Del Mar Plaza where the

>     >

>     >2

>     > >0up.gif> rich chicks congregate, well u get my point.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >There is the possibility of several reasons why Mr. Bellows refers to me

>     as

>     > >"boss " nothing quite

>     like

>     > >seeing a tight ass insurance executive in a suit and tie, top bottom tied

>     on

>     > >a stiff white collard white shirt going simply bananas then again we have

>     > >not reached the end of the hypothetical FBI interrogation that began this

>     > >past Thursday.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Tefo, so far not a single person has offered me either verbally or in

>     > >writing the answer to the very critical question, "Why have the world's

>     > >financial markets not imploded, yet?", my working on several

>     communications

>     > >at this point that I would like to get out be4 our JoNathan's soccer

>     > >tournament an hour from now at 1:30 PM PT so there may be some

>     disconnects,

>     > >please let me know, such a question finding its roots with Momworker63's

>     > >plea for help.

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >So important in helping someone else to do no more than offer

>     suggestions,

>     > >no one likes to be told what to do and when to do it, let alone how to do

>     > >it, the history books full of "do gooders" wrecking havoc on indigenous

>     > >peoples who never asked for help in the first place, agree?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >So important not to come across as a "know it all" unless when rising

>     each

>     > >day finding oneself

>     > >outraged by what is going one has as we do with Clean Water Fund project

>     a

>     > >"bullet proof" and "water tight" solution to solving the most basic human

>     > >right, clean drinking water being made available to every single human

>     being

>     > >on the planet and if u r not outraged each and every day then it simply

>     > >means u r not paying attention, agree?

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >Indifference, self-centeredness no longer in the cards should I decide to

>     go

>     > >public spelling in less than 500 words the answer to that all important

>     > >question of "Why have the financial markets not imploded, yet?"

> that

>

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