From: Gary S. Gevisser
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:10 AM PT
To:
Cc: rest;
Solly Krok;
Subject: FW: The past is a pillar of salt - being rich is ethical
(although I myself; am not rich) ?
Enid
– I think it will be helpful for the Chairman and CEO of Coca Cola to
keep track of this ongoing dialogue between Mr. Mohapi and Mr.
Good
day,
GsG
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Subject: Re: The past is a pillar of salt - being rich is ethical (although
I myself; am not rich) ?
Jonathan/
To quote
you "one must embark on complete
capitalism, if one doesn't; all he can
do is sit and watch.
those around him. Giving a job is far
more satisfactory
than continuously eroding one's own
capital."
Question:
Complete capitalism also means (I might be wrong) doing all you can to increse
your capital even if it means abusing/exploiting other people's ignorance
and/or kind heartedness?
1652 Jan
Van Riebeck came to RSA as a part of the team from the Dutch East Indian Company.
Due to the kind heartedness and ignorance of the habitants of
I just think it is flawed with too many loopholes but then those at the top seem to be tto brain dead to care since they are benefiting and through greed and paranoia keep the rest of us from getting up the pyramid.
Having said all this, I agree with you partially in that the only way to beat the system is from inside. Just like any virus or good thief, you work from the inside out to bring down the system especially if the system is a gigantic unmovable monolith that if you attacked from the outside it will crush you. So the best way is to infect the system and then the rest will be history.
So,
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From: Jonathan P [mailto:janupalo@webmail.co.za]
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To: gsg@sellnext.com
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Subject: The past is a pillar
of salt - being rich is ethical (although I
myself; am not rich) ?
The past is a
pillar of salt - being rich is ethical
(although I myself; am not
rich) ?
Lets say the GDP per capita
in
is roughly that amount; I
read different figures from all
over. If I am correct in my
thinking, hypothetically, I own
R40 000 in the bank the man
next to me now only has R8 000.
Any person who clears about
R4 000 a month and save it
after one year can be richer
than the average citizen. My father asked me why am I not studying further
towards a CA(SA)? I answered by saying that the time taken to achieve such a goal
would be a huge opportunity cost for compounding returns. I need to break the
poverty cycle and every year I will take an extra margin from the guy next to
me. He didn't say anything but knowing my father ? he thought I was mad.
A very good friend of mine
once posed an ethical issue to
me, at the age of seventeen,
I was completely stumped. I
have posed the same
statement to many, many of which cannot accept it. He said, "The giving of
charity is a selfish affair". I asked him, "why is that? surely
giving charity is giving up something for someone else, how can that be
selfish?". He smiled and replied, "In monetary terms, yes, people
give money to make themselves feel better". Well, simply giving money
where I am loosing compounding returns for someone who buys sniffing glue is
very much against my thinking. The same applies to giving money to those who
spend excessively to convince other donors. I wrote in my little thoughts book,
"one must embark on complete capitalism, if one doesn't; all he can do is
sit and watch.
speaking, I cannot explain
why the universe has no
beginning or end. I cannot
explain why certain art
movements and cultures have
similarities before the age of globalisation aka "Digital Age". G-d /
universal thinking will know best and things will happen naturally. There are
certain areas (regardless of how true or untrue) of this site which link
perceived unethical behaviour to certain persons? personal life. You clearly
have more knowledge or in contact with these entities. I personally know of a
certain company under the control of Jonathan Beare which employs thousands. This
same company in a few years time may employ 3 times that amount. Yet you have
made some very personal remarks about him and linking him to unethical
behaviour. I ashamedly, not knowing Jonathan Beare, replied by speculating his
connection to dutch-sandwiches. Anyone can justify anything by twisting the
words. The truth is I have spoken to one of Jonathan Beare?s CEO, he told me
what a brilliant man Jonathan is and how he makes, although complicated, very
fair deals for all the parties. To any entities related to Jonathan Beare and
Jonathan Beare himself who are reading this; please forgive me, I think
Jonathan Beare has achieved a lot for himself and for others.
I also feel that guilt
shouldn’t draw investors. The Clear Water Fund is a great idea. In
Kind Regards